Some LaRoche Family-name Links

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Uncle Charlie's Place 
Savannah GA
Drug Store of Charles LaRoche-Original store (circa 1890) and living quarters of Robert Kennedy
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Uncle Charlie (Charles Augustus LaRoche) was a favorite of my father. On the family marker, not his gravestone, at the Greenwich cemetery, near the Marsh in Savannah (Victory Drive Bridge), Charlie placed the word Huguenot in large letters.  That is not the full story of his family. He probably did not know about the Barnard Family, who lived on Wilmington Island (where the Victory Drive Bridge leads) in 1800, or that the family played an important role in the Georgia Rangers under Oglethorpe. Uncle Charlie probably did not know about Donald MacKay and his role on St. Simon's Island. He probably did not know that he was a cousin to two persons who signed the Declaration for Georgia.

A Family Tree -- An example
A Comprehensive start place based in Genebase pages -- Note: Genebase pages now require a sign-in, so those links no longer work.
Children of Thomas Watkins and Sarah “Sally” Walton -- an allied Family line (SC, GA VA)

Some Stephens-Cash-Perkins -- North Georgia -- Cash-Perkins tales

Broyles Family als Ötisheim (familia Breyhel)

New Inverness (Oliver-MacKay-McIntosh) Connections

LaRoche-Drummond line

Echols-Hubbard

Dunwody, Brumby, Glover (Atlanta)

Harden Book on Isaac LaRoche in Savannah and Augusta

Ludwell Grymes of Virginia

Pouder, Miller & Boone (bottom of page)

Robert McMurry - War of 1812

Obituary Margaret Keith Pouder

Obituary Carrene Stephens Redfern
An Ode to Aunt Carrene

Obituary Hank Couzens
 

Hiram Phinazee

http://www.livinggenealogy.com/node/402
Laurel Grove Cemetery in Savannah-listing of Graves

http://www.ancestry.com/facts/Laroche-family-history.ashx?fn=&yr=1840 (Fed Census Records (incomplete))

http://genforum.genealogy.com/laroche/

http://www.cromwellbutlers.com/roch_sbb.htm (Mdme LaRoche à France) -- Baroness Raymonde de la Roche

http://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/biography/486/ (Haiti)

http://www.puritanboard.com/f18/antoine-de-la-roche-chandieu-16463/ (Antoine along with John Calvin, authored of the 1559 French (or Gallican) Confession.)

Dutchy of Athens -- La Roche-sur-l'Ognon (Seigneurs des Bourgogne & Franche-Comté) -- Shroud of Besançon

Nevers, capitale de l'ancienne province du Nivernais (Département de la Nièvre) -- home city of Philibert Couillaud dit Roquebrune, l'ancêtre de la grande majorité des Larocque du Canada et des États-Unis.

All LaRoches link: http://rochelineages.wordpress.com/

Placed on the home on Tattanal in which Eliza M. [Watkins] LaRoche lived during War between the States and later turned into a boarding house After many years of searching, well it began over 35 years ago, when I discovered this plaque, which has since been removed. I was looking for E.M. LaRoche's maiden name, my great-great grandmother and her husband, Oliver Augustus were buried in Savannah. I had seen their gravesite that day, and my father' had seen his grandfather's grave for the first time, too. But who was this person? I knew she was born in Beaufort SC and the date (from the grave). Now I new a maiden name, I still didn't know her maiden name, or parents. Discovery came slow, with chance calls, a newspaper article from Roswell Georgia and finally some Internet contacts at the turn of the century. Eliza was Eliza Marguerite Watkins at birth and her parents George Washington Watkins and Mary Jane Fripp. With help I found all about the Watkins, Walton connections and more. The Fripp name was an historic one in Beaufort, but I couldn't find the exact family. And so I was at a dead end for over a dozen years.

Found yesterday (February 7th 2016), new direct family members -- John McKee a Revolutionary War soldier and his wife Margaret Johnson (married 1784), both now rest in the McKee family plot in Beaufort SC (http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=132692364) - an ancestral lot at the St. Helena church yard. Their daughter Elizabeth was born on February 7th, 10th or 11th in 1785. At age 14, she married John Hamilton Fripp of St Helena Island (a son of William Fripp and Magdalen Meggett), to which was born a number of children, including it appears Mary Jane Fripp. Mary Jane married George Washington Watkins but both died young, leaving their only daughter Eliza Marguerite Fripp to be raised by her "Fripp" Grandmother in Beaufort County. This was the key discovery, a Fripp family member in Beaufort tied to Marguerite, whose name was Elizabeth and whose mother was named Margaret. It all fits. Eliza M. married Oliver Augustus LaRoche of Savannah - which is from where my direct family-name connection comes. As stated above I have visited Eliza and Oliver's gravesite in Savannah; and, I have walked by the church yard in Beaufort. Now I'll have a specific place for which to seek and find names.

The McKee family had a plantation on Ladies Island, and this appears originally to be John's father David (died 1775) and Mary McKee's property. John's father bequeathed his son a "tract of land on the Indian Land, containing five hundred and twenty acres to him and the lawful heirs of his body forever, and [he shall] enter into full possession of the same at the age of twenty one years but in case he should show himself prudent and discreet in business my executors may put him in possession at the age of eighteen years, my said son John paying the sum of three hundred pounds to his younger brother Paul." A congregational church at "Indian Land" or Stoney Creek 10-15 miles northwest of Beaufort, S.C was built in the 1740's. The Stoney Creek church was in the vicinity of Pocotaligo (now in Jasper County) & the Combahee River. Therefore, the church is presumed to have been within Beaufort County. Incidentally, there was another David McKee, an immigrant living in Western Pennsylvania at the end of the 18th Century.

This put me only a few generations within tying into the first Fripps in South Carolina. Although I am confident that the connection is with John Fripp, history is uncertain whether he is the second or third of that name in South Carolina. This John Fripp was born about 1704 in St. Helena Island, South Carolina. He died on Dec 2, 1739 in St. Helena Island, South Carolina. He married Martha, but there remains some question about her maiden name. They had a son named William, the father of John Hamilton Fripp.

Revolutionary War pension claim W. 8446, it appears that John McKee, when about sixteen years of age, enlisted as a private in Captain Jenkins` company, Colonel Barnwell`s South Carolina Regiment. The company was raised on the island of St. Helena and was called the St Helena Volunteers. He was in the battle of Stono Ferry (fought on June 20, 1779, near Charleston, South Carolina - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Stono_Ferry). He fought during the Siege of Charleston (March 29 to May 12, 1780 - http://militaryhistory.about.com/od/americanrevolution/p/American-Revolution-Siege-Of-Charleston.htm). John McKee served several years, no dates of service are given on the pension application; however he volunteered at age 16 and his father died in 1775, so at some point he had to go home. The former soldier married on March 9, 1784, Margaret Johnson (by Rev. James Graham). She was allowed pension on her application that she executed January 18 1851, at which time she resided at Beaufort, South Carolina, aged eighty-four years. So, she would have been about 17 when she married. To this union were born children - many died young:
*** Elizabeth born February 11, 1785, married November 21, 1799, John Hamilton Fripp; -- possibly born on 7th or the 10th
Rebecca born July 4 1787, Departed this life on the 11th of October 1790 aged 3 years & 3 months;
Mary Margaret born November 24 1790, Departed this life on the 1st of October 1794, age 3 years & 10 months;
John Johnson born September 20, 1793, Departed this life on the 7th of August 1795 aged one year & 10 months;
Henrietta born February 9 179x (record torn), married May 8, 1818, John Bell. Our ever dear and beloved Henrietta departed this life on 14th of August 1825, aged 29 years;
Caroline born April 21,179x(record torn), married December 12, 1816, John Verdier;
Edward born June 5 1800, married February 23, 1825, Catherine Williams -- "On this 31st day of August 1829, our dear Edward departed this transitory life aged 29 years, and through the all sufficient merits of our adorable Redeemer and Glorious Advocate, I humbly trust, repose is in the bosom of our God";
Anna born December 27 1801, Our editor dear Anna departed this life on the 27th of December 1823 aged 22 years;
Louisa born November 5 1807, Our loved Louisa departed this transitory Life on the 31st of April 1822;
Margaretta, born November 3, 1807; died 1809;
Henry born September 6, 1811 (“Ashdale” plantation); married Jane Monroe Bold (1819-1904); He died in 1875; Place of burial: Saint Helena's Churchyard, Beaufort County, South Carolina.

She had a testimony to give: "On the 9th day of September 1834, in the 74th year of his age departed this life John McKee, my Beloved Husband, upwards of 50 years, who has been our sojourn here, in sorrow and in joy, and blessed be the God of my mercies, methinks I hear the voices of my loved ones gone before chanting Hallelujah around the Throne of the Great Eternal! in whose presence "fullness of Joy and Pleasures forever!" And now Lord, I wait for thy salvation; and, when the Bridegroom shall say he "Come," may thine handmaiden be found watching, as one who waited for the coming of her Lord! And, may she be enabled with all the Redeemed ones to exclaim, "Thanks be to God who giveth us the Victory through our Lord Jesus Christ!" Amen and Amen." Eliza Marguerite Watkins, my great-great grandmother went to live with her grandmother, orphaned when her mother died (she was less than 5). There she lived until she was married in 1840 at age 18. Eliza Marguerite Watkins LaRoche outlived her first child who died in a tragic carriage accident, she outlived her husband (who died during the War Between the States), she ran a boarding house to make ends meet and to educate her other children, she lived long afterwards.

Daniel Robinson was born in Scotland into the Robertson-allied familiess, known in Gælic as Clan Donnachaid (Children of Duncan). The Robertsons descend from King Duncan I through his son, Robert. In 1651, the Scottish people had tired of the tyranny of Oliver Cromwell's dictatorship. They turned their allegiance to Charles II. Cromwell's army met the Royalist Army at Worcester. Daniel Robins and a number of other Scottish were taken prisoner and shipped to America. Daniel was exiled to Connecticut where he was an indentured servant for a number of years. In 1663 Daniel married Hope Potter. Daniel, who had shortened his last name to "Robins," died in 1714 and was buried in new Jersey, the colony where he and his family had eventually settled. Descendants live throughout the United States including my mother's side of the family. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~johnsongenealogy/johnson/id18.htm

Interestingly on February 5, 1649, the rightful claimant of the throne of England and Scotland, King Charles II, became King of Scotland, through its Parliament. This move was not followed by the Parliament of England or the Parliament of Ireland. Charles II's father, King Charles I, had been executed at Whitehall on January 30, 1649, at the climax of the English Civil War. The English Parliament did not proclaim Charles II as king, and instead passed a statute that made any such proclamation unlawful. England entered the period known to history as the English Interregnum or the English Commonwealth. The country existed as a de facto republic, led by Oliver Cromwell. Charles II was crowned King of Scotland at Scone on the first day of January in 1651. Following his defeat by Cromwell at the Battle of Worcester on September 3, 1651, Charles had to flee to the mainland of Europe. He spent the next nine years in exile in France, the United Provinces and the Spanish Netherlands. Charles later became the English King and sovereign of Ireland after Cromwell's revolution had been ended. He converted to Roman Catholicism on his deathbed, succeeded by James II, the last Roman Catholic sovereign until exiled, replaced by Mary his Protestant daughter and her husband William of Orange after the 'Glorious Revolution."

Our History-based Newsletter -- A day to day Account

The link explaining Coat-of-Arms works again (click shield) -- here is what is written there: Note the fleur-de-lis is green and azure, for the linking of the old and new world {and a new name to the old, a Protestant faith for a Catholic one} -- a wood-colored bridge across the ocean and time (and Isaac the first in Georgia reported himself as a craftsman in shipbuilding). The cross on the shield is appropriate for the family, I believe. Note that the 3 fish look like a cancellation of a stamp, where traditionally the flag motif was the cancellation on the stamp. Also the white fleur-de-lis continues the US flag theme, but it is more in the shape of a Scout device than a royal one, because Scouting (Girl and Boy Scouts) has been important to my immediate family. Finally, the color of purple is an Anglican Community tradition. But what if . . . ?

Blackwater Castle: The documented (historical) record of today's structure dates to 1291. The Chapel and tower flanking on the eastern side of the Castle arose much earlier during the 12th Century, all sitting upon ruins of much older fortifications that go back at least 1000 years. This portion of the castle, while no longer accessible, stills stands, itself a noteworthy achievement. The Castle became the principal stronghold of an Anglo-Norman family who (were invited separately or accompanied Strongbow on his invasion) of Ireland during the Anglo-Norman invasion of 1170, settling in Castletownroche. This family from Wales in the 12th Century were known as “de la Roche” from their pre-invasion Flemish-Norman ancestry; and, accordingly became known as the “Roche’s” in Ireland thereby giving Castletownroche its name. The prominent tower on the west wing side of the Castle (“the keep”) was erected during the 14th Century and is considered a fine example of remaining Norman architecture in Ireland. The Lord Deputy of Ireland Sir Henry Sidney the Roche Castle in 1576, and found that he and all my trayne were verie largely and bountiefullie entertayned. The Castle remained in the Roche Family until 1666, after which it was given for services to the crown. Today it is owned by the Nordstrom family and called Blackwater Castle. Refectory (upper story) and kitchens of Bridgetown Abbey, near Castletownroche, County Cork. It is part of an extensive monastic site that is the largest of its kind in the Blackwater valley. Here is the Savannah connection:

One of the first known arrivals of a person of Irish descent was James Oglethorpe. His father was English. However, he married Eleanor, daughter of Richard Wall, Esq., of the county Tipperary, and Katherine de la Roche, of the Lord Roche's family in Ireland, which was connected by intermarriage with the Scottish house of Argyle. James Oglethorpe had close ties to Ireland throughout his life. La Roche Avenue in Savannah is believed to be named after a family member who was on the Board of (a Trustee) or stockholder in the Georgia Colony (this would not be John LaRoche)]. http://www.savannahdestinationwedding.com/1GPSTour1.html

http://fabpedigree.com/s094/f020684.htm is the de la Roche pedigree for earlier connections before the portion of the timeline shown below (can you find Noah ?).

Timeline from http://www.blackwatercastle.com/the-castle/history-of-blackwater-castle:


1578 -- Start of the Decline of House of Roche under David 5th Lord Roche (died 1592)

1580 -- Sir Walter Raleigh takes the Castle through treachery, as a special service to his Queen who begins to distrust all Catholics and even puts her Catholic sister (the mother of Protestant James I) to death.

1593 -- Maurice, becomes 6th Lord Roche, Viscount of Fermoy 

1597 -- Maurice imprisoned

1600-35 -- David, 7th Lord Roche, Viscount of Fermoy

1600 -- David appeals to Queen Elizabeth I

1603-Lord David Roche, still loyal to the Crown, with Thornton and 800 soldiers, proclaimed the King (James I) near Shandon Castle, Cork.

In 1609, David Roche of Fermoy surrendered all lands to James I and had them re-granted to him so that there could be no dispute over title as long as the monarchy endured. Confirmation was received in 1611 along with 150 foot soldiers who were placed under his command. He had won the King's favour - by changing his denomination.

1635-1670 -- Maurice, Lord Roche, Viscount of Fermoy -- David Roche (Fermoy) died at Castletownroche and was buried at the family's beloved Bridgetown Abbey. He is succeeded by son Maurice, now at the age of 42, the eighth Viscount. He had married Ellen, the daughter of John Power, son and heir to Richard Lord Power of Carrigmore. They had three daughters and two sons (some say four). Maurice was a supporter of the Catholics (unlike his father at the end of his life), was considered "a popular man" amongst the papists in Munster and was even imprisoned for a time. Poor Ellen is the women who ended her days at the end of Cromwell's rope - hanged for her spirited stand against his incursions - just a few short years later.

1636 -- King Charles I summons Maurice to London and he is imprisoned

1641 -- King Charles I releases Maurice from prison

1642 -- Skirmishes by Lord Inchiquin

1649/1650 -- Cromwell’s forces attack – Lady Roche defends

1652 -- Lady Roche hanged

1652 -- Lord Roche surrenders and his estate is forfeit to the state

1666 -- Castel and lands awarded to Colonel John Widenham

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